Quinta Piena Inviata October 13, 2014 at 07:00 Share Inviata October 13, 2014 at 07:00 Piccolo OT per Ragastas (non riesco a quotare il suo post dell'altro giorno): non trovo in alcun modo paragonabile l'incidente di Bianchi a quello di Ballerini. Quest'ultimo è morto non per le conseguenze della decelerazione, ma per un non corretto uso dell'hans, che nel momento dell'impatto non ha fatto il suo dovere (concetto espresso in enorme sintesi, ci sono in giro documenti e testimonianze piuttosto dettagliate in merito). Fine dell'OT. Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Ragastas Inviata October 13, 2014 at 13:34 Share Inviata October 13, 2014 at 13:34 Piccolo OT per Ragastas (non riesco a quotare il suo post dell'altro giorno): non trovo in alcun modo paragonabile l'incidente di Bianchi a quello di Ballerini. Quest'ultimo è morto non per le conseguenze della decelerazione, ma per un non corretto uso dell'hans, che nel momento dell'impatto non ha fatto il suo dovere (concetto espresso in enorme sintesi, ci sono in giro documenti e testimonianze piuttosto dettagliate in merito). Fine dell'OT. Ballerini era il navigatore, quindi impegnato a leggere le note, non era preparato e pronto all'impatto. Pensavo che senza possibilità di movimento del collo, si fosse salvato il rachide, ma il cervello, causa la fortissima decellerazione si fosse danneggiato dentro la scatola cranica, a sua volta immobilizzata dal collare Hans. Non sono andato a documentarmi, vado solo per ricordi. Se mi sono sbagliato, mi scuso. Anzi, mi scuso e mi fustigo chiedendo poerdono agli amministratori di questo mio errore. Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Quinta Piena Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:10 Share Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:10 No, la lesione fatale mi consta sia stata proprio a livello della parte superiore del rachide, appunto per i motivi detti. Per questo non vedo relazione con l'incidente di Bianchi. Ciao ragazaccio... Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Kraven VanHelsing Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:10 Share Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:10 Four-time Formula 1 world champion Alain Prost says Jules Bianchi's accident at the Japanese Grand Prix left him furious about the way the situation was handled. While Bianchi continues to fight for his life in a Japanese hospital, Prost believes that the FIA should have acted differently in dealing with the recovery of Adrian Sutil's stricken Sauber. He suggests that although it is standard procedure for double waved yellow flags to be used when retrieving vehicles, the circumstances of the Suzuka race should have resulted in the governing body acting differently to ensure there was no risk of another accident. "I don't want to make any polemics with the FIA, because I have a lot of respect for what has been done in terms of safety over the past 20 years," said Prost, when asked by AUTOSPORT for his feelings on events in Japan. "It is cars and tracks [that have been improved] and there was only one thing left: it was this f**king truck on the track." Prost said he could not believe that the FIA allowed a crane to be allowed trackside of barriers while cars were still driving by at high speed. "I was furious. I was really shocked by the accident," he said. "You have the procedure, but the weather conditions were getting worse and worse with more and more water, so visibility was very bad. "So you cannot have the same decision according to the procedure if the weather was good or bad. That is why I say I am not convinced. "In this condition, especially with all the experience they have in terms of safety, they should have zero risk." Prost accepts that Bianchi was unlucky to hit the crane, but he feels it is the governing body's job to ensure that such a thing cannot happen in the first place. "It was safe in the beginning when it started with the safety car, because it was a difficult decision to stop the race after three/four laps and start again," he said. "That is why I was shocked, because you take the right decision at one stage. "It is huge bad luck, but you should not judge the cause of the accident, you should judge the consequence. You don't want to have that. "If it was my son, I wouldn't want this type of accident with a truck on an F1 track. That is what I cannot accept." 1 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
alessandrosecchi Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:17 Share Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:17 Four-time Formula 1 world champion Alain Prost says Jules Bianchi's accident at the Japanese Grand Prix left him furious about the way the situation was handled. While Bianchi continues to fight for his life in a Japanese hospital, Prost believes that the FIA should have acted differently in dealing with the recovery of Adrian Sutil's stricken Sauber. He suggests that although it is standard procedure for double waved yellow flags to be used when retrieving vehicles, the circumstances of the Suzuka race should have resulted in the governing body acting differently to ensure there was no risk of another accident. "I don't want to make any polemics with the FIA, because I have a lot of respect for what has been done in terms of safety over the past 20 years," said Prost, when asked by AUTOSPORT for his feelings on events in Japan. "It is cars and tracks [that have been improved] and there was only one thing left: it was this f**king truck on the track." Prost said he could not believe that the FIA allowed a crane to be allowed trackside of barriers while cars were still driving by at high speed. "I was furious. I was really shocked by the accident," he said. "You have the procedure, but the weather conditions were getting worse and worse with more and more water, so visibility was very bad. "So you cannot have the same decision according to the procedure if the weather was good or bad. That is why I say I am not convinced. "In this condition, especially with all the experience they have in terms of safety, they should have zero risk." Prost accepts that Bianchi was unlucky to hit the crane, but he feels it is the governing body's job to ensure that such a thing cannot happen in the first place. "It was safe in the beginning when it started with the safety car, because it was a difficult decision to stop the race after three/four laps and start again," he said. "That is why I was shocked, because you take the right decision at one stage. "It is huge bad luck, but you should not judge the cause of the accident, you should judge the consequence. You don't want to have that. "If it was my son, I wouldn't want this type of accident with a truck on an F1 track. That is what I cannot accept." In Ita http://www.passionea300allora.it/2014/10/13/alain-prost-scioccato-e-furioso-per-lincidente-a-bianchi/ Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Questo è un messaggio popolare alessandrosecchi Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:18 Questo è un messaggio popolare Share Inviata October 13, 2014 at 14:18 Anzi, mi scuso e mi fustigo chiedendo poerdono agli amministratori di questo mio errore. Prendi per il culo o prendi per il culo? Poi vai a dire in giro che sono arrogante mi raccomando. 9 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
leopnd Inviata October 14, 2014 at 07:44 Share Inviata October 14, 2014 at 07:44 Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk 1 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
alessandrosecchi Inviata October 14, 2014 at 07:46 Share Inviata October 14, 2014 at 07:46 Ipocriti. Dopo qualche ora tutti a sbevazzare in aereo. 1 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Tilot Inviata October 14, 2014 at 08:58 Share Inviata October 14, 2014 at 08:58 (modificato) Sono incappato in questo video. Il secondo botto di Brundle: stessa pista, stesso posto, stessa situazione, stesso rischio.... Modificato October 14, 2014 at 08:58 da Tilot 2 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Kraven VanHelsing Inviata October 14, 2014 at 09:56 Share Inviata October 14, 2014 at 09:56 Pare che sulla versione cartacea della Gazzetta ci sia una lunga intervista al papà di Jules. http://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/14-10-2014/parla-papa-jules-bianchi-90737548143.shtml Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Nemo981 Inviata October 15, 2014 at 18:05 Share Inviata October 15, 2014 at 18:05 qui dicono che la decelerazione sarebbe stata di 92G (ed insistono sull'impatto a 180 Km/h che a me sembrano troppi, considerando che è uscito a poco più di 200)... http://www.formulapassion.it/2014/10/f1-incidente-jules-bianchi-misurata-una-decelerazione-di-92g/ Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
DaniMotorSport Inviata October 15, 2014 at 18:48 Share Inviata October 15, 2014 at 18:48 qui dicono che la decelerazione sarebbe stata di 92G (ed insistono sull'impatto a 180 Km/h che a me sembrano troppi, considerando che è uscito a poco più di 200)... http://www.formulapassion.it/2014/10/f1-incidente-jules-bianchi-misurata-una-decelerazione-di-92g/ Lo stesso si legge su AS sulla disamina di Mannucci Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Lui98 Inviata October 15, 2014 at 19:20 Share Inviata October 15, 2014 at 19:20 qui dicono che la decelerazione sarebbe stata di 92G (ed insistono sull'impatto a 180 Km/h che a me sembrano troppi, considerando che è uscito a poco più di 200)... http://www.formulapassion.it/2014/10/f1-incidente-jules-bianchi-misurata-una-decelerazione-di-92g/ Sembrano esagerati anche a me, per quanto in brevissimo tempo non credo abbia avuto una decelerazione tale nemmeno io sinceramente, l' analisi fatta da Alessandro mi sembrava quella più vicina alla realtà dei fatti ed i dati più verosimili, nonostante si trattasse di supposizioni basate sul materiale noto a tutti. 1 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
MauroC Inviata October 16, 2014 at 17:37 Share Inviata October 16, 2014 at 17:37 Faccio veramente fatica a commentare quello che è successo ma ci tenevo ad aggiungere anche il mio incoraggiamento per questo sfortunato ragazzo. Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
leopnd Inviata October 17, 2014 at 10:26 Share Inviata October 17, 2014 at 10:26 As we remember Dan Wheldon, we pray for Jules Bianchi There are a few moments in our lives where we remember exactly where we were when a significant event happened. For racing fans, these kinds of moments usually correspond with the loss of one of our own.Where were you when we lost Dan? Three years ago today, I was in an RV on I-95, crossing through Virginia. I was watching the 2011 IndyCar season finale on TV. The race was just a few laps old, but I was already captivated by the intense, Talladega-esque action. We were just settling in when they decided to check on Dan Wheldon, who was rocketing up through the pack after starting last. He was hoping to collect $5,000,000 for winning the event, making just his third start of the season. A few months prior, he won the Indianapolis 500 in one of the most exciting finishes in the race's history.The moment As the commentators discussed his progress, I noticed smoke up ahead seconds before they do as well. "Right now, the position he's in, he's actually got a small advantage because everyone else has opened the air up right in front of hi -- Oh! Here we go!" Chaos. Carnage. The unthinkable. Cars were sent somersaulting into the air like a video game, landing on top of one another. Smoke, debris, fire everywhere. Half the grid was obliterated and as the remaining drivers went through the debris field, it looked like nothing short of a war zone. Soon after, I lost the TV signal, left to wonder the fate of the 15 racers involved. Many were injured, a few walked away shaken but otherwise unscathed. As we now know, one driver was far from okay. I heard through a phone call first. Dan's gone. By the time I got the signal back, all I could see were grown men weeping, thousands of people who couldn't believe what was happening walking around aimlessly. They did a five lap salute, and then they went home. In the years since Dan Wheldon's tragic death, as is always the case with motorsport, we've lost more racers. There's the names that have been immortalized such as Allan Simonsen, Sean Edwards, Marco Simoncelli, and Jason Leffler. Sadly, there's dozens more whose names few will ever be able to recallNow we pray for Jules Today, we wait to see what fate has in store for rising Formula One star, Jules Bianchi. He lays unconscious in a Japanese hospital with a severe brain injury. Should we lose him, it will be the first driver fatality during an F1 race weekend in two decades, which will make it sting that much more. There's still hope for Jules though, we haven't lost this one yet. The chances are slim, but a chance at all is more than many others have had following horrendous accidents. Today, we remember one fallen racer and pray that another escapes death.An unwelcomed companion Due to incredible safety improvements, death has become a stranger who rarely crosses racing's path instead of a frequent visitor whose presence is awaited with intense trepidation. We can never fully protect our drivers though, death will always be an unwelcomed companion of auto racing. We can just bury the fallen with tears, embrace the ones who escape death’s firm and final grip with relief, and race on, because that’s what racers do. Rest in peace Lion Heart, and Forza Jules. By: Nick DeGroot, News manager, Motorsport.com 3 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Questo è un messaggio popolare Andrea Gardenal Inviata October 17, 2014 at 14:26 Autore Questo è un messaggio popolare Share Inviata October 17, 2014 at 14:26 The whole WSR family with Jules #ForzaJules pic.twitter.com/IoLxQsAJ9L— WorldSeriesbyRenault (@WSR_Live) October 17, 2014 5 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Andrea Gardenal Inviata October 18, 2014 at 16:51 Autore Share Inviata October 18, 2014 at 16:51 Suzuka 2014, curva Dunlop (almeno credo), prove libere 2 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Pep92 Inviata October 28, 2014 at 17:35 Share Inviata October 28, 2014 at 17:35 sembra che Jules potrebbe essere trasferito al CHUV di Losanna (dove è stato ricoverato Schumacher) http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/43121/f1-bianchi-e-stabile-si-pensa-al-trasferimento-in-svizzera Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
JoeBlack Inviata October 29, 2014 at 18:17 Share Inviata October 29, 2014 at 18:17 Bel video... 2 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
mammamia Inviata October 29, 2014 at 19:19 Share Inviata October 29, 2014 at 19:19 Come temevo e pensavo ..... abbiamo un'altra pianta. Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Bertoku Inviata October 29, 2014 at 21:50 Share Inviata October 29, 2014 at 21:50 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Bertoku Inviata October 29, 2014 at 21:57 Share Inviata October 29, 2014 at 21:57 3 Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Carlomm73 Inviata October 30, 2014 at 10:11 Share Inviata October 30, 2014 at 10:11 Come temevo e pensavo ..... abbiamo un'altra pianta. Speriamo di no Claudio, e incrociamo le dita. Ah, però...... Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
Pep92 Inviata October 30, 2014 at 12:50 Share Inviata October 30, 2014 at 12:50 Come temevo e pensavo ..... abbiamo un'altra pianta. purtroppo potrebbe succedere comunque un'ultima speranza arriva dalla Polonia (non so niente in materia ma se c'è riuscito lui perché non provare) http://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina/2014/10/21/news/uomo_paralizzato_torna_a_camminare_dopo_trapianto_cellule-98646607/ Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
61066 Inviata October 30, 2014 at 20:39 Share Inviata October 30, 2014 at 20:39 On behalf of the Bianchi family Link al commento Condividi su altri siti More sharing options...
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