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Servono ulteriori conferme al fatto che ci stanno prendendo tutti per il culo? Eccole...

 

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119770

 

Senior Formula 1 figures have urged caution in the way findings of fan surveys are interpreted following results that include calls for a return of refuelling and a tyre war.

Two major fan surveys were recently carried out - one by AUTOSPORT, F1 Racing and Motorsport News, and another by the Grand Prix Drivers' Association.

The results of the former were presented to various chiefs in the F1 paddock, and some expressed surprise at what fans say they want to see.

On the subject of F1 returning to more durable rubber (63.3 per cent in favour) and a battle between tyre companies (77.9 per cent in favour; GPDA 80 per cent), Red Bull team principal Christian Horner told F1 Racing: "I think that's rose-tinted spectacles.

"If you go back and look at what Ferrari did with Bridgestone against Michelin with Renault - everyone else suffered.

"[More durable tyres] will make the racing worse, you'll have one-stop races which are never exciting."

Mercedes motorsport chief Toto Wolff highlighted that a return to refuelling (61.3 per cent in favour; GPDA 60 per cent) would "limit the variance on strategy and you will see less overtaking".

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier added: "The problem with refuelling is you get into a computer-driven strategy with no flexibility.

"Today you can mix-up the strategy quite a bit, which you wouldn't be able to if you had to refuel."

Manor president and sporting director Graeme Lowdon said any call for refuelling and a tyre war "hasn't been thought through".

"People forget, no-one used to overtake in the refuelling days, it was all done in the pitstops," he added.

"Sadly I think a bit of amnesia has crept in from the fans with regard to those two things."

In response to 50.4 per cent of fans being against F1's drag reduction system to aid overtaking, Boullier said the message is mixed.

"I watch old races sometimes at home and you look at the huge gap between the cars - there was very little overtaking," he said. "But we enjoyed them.

"In 2013 we had perhaps the closest-ever racing in Formula 1 and there were so many overtaking manoeuvres and pitstops that people couldn't understand what was going on.

"That was a crazy season. What do people want - overtaking or not?"

Pirelli chief Paul Hembery believes it would be risky for F1 to base its direction purely on the results of the surveys.

"If you want exciting racing, the survey results go against that," he said.

"A team will spend a lot of money on the best tyres and the best engine and there will be no overtaking and they'll disappear into the distance.

"That happened in the early 2000s and the audiences fell through the floor.

"The responses of the survey seem to point towards that so people need to think about what they're saying."

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una traduzione please? :asd:

Dopo magari traduco meglio, ma in sostanza i sondaggioni della GPDA e di F1 Racing hanno espresso un determinato tipo di volontà  da parte degli spettatori, che in estrema sintesi si potrebbe tradurre con uno spettacolo meno artificioso rispetto a quanto visto negli ultimi anni, ma "chi conta" sta già  provando a smontare le idee emerse dal sondaggio (gomme che durano di più, no DRS eccetera).

 

Insomma, sono tutti preoccupati che le soluzioni suggerite dai fan finiscano per allontanare i fan stessi

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Insomma stanno cercando giustificazioni per le innovazioni schifologiche che hanno introdotto in Formula 1?

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Servono ulteriori conferme al fatto che ci stanno prendendo tutti per il culo? Eccole...

 

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119770

 

Senior Formula 1 figures have urged caution in the way findings of fan surveys are interpreted following results that include calls for a return of refuelling and a tyre war.

Two major fan surveys were recently carried out - one by AUTOSPORT, F1 Racing and Motorsport News, and another by the Grand Prix Drivers' Association.

The results of the former were presented to various chiefs in the F1 paddock, and some expressed surprise at what fans say they want to see.

On the subject of F1 returning to more durable rubber (63.3 per cent in favour) and a battle between tyre companies (77.9 per cent in favour; GPDA 80 per cent), Red Bull team principal Christian Horner told F1 Racing: "I think that's rose-tinted spectacles.

"If you go back and look at what Ferrari did with Bridgestone against Michelin with Renault - everyone else suffered.

"[More durable tyres] will make the racing worse, you'll have one-stop races which are never exciting."

Mercedes motorsport chief Toto Wolff highlighted that a return to refuelling (61.3 per cent in favour; GPDA 60 per cent) would "limit the variance on strategy and you will see less overtaking".

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier added: "The problem with refuelling is you get into a computer-driven strategy with no flexibility.

"Today you can mix-up the strategy quite a bit, which you wouldn't be able to if you had to refuel."

Manor president and sporting director Graeme Lowdon said any call for refuelling and a tyre war "hasn't been thought through".

"People forget, no-one used to overtake in the refuelling days, it was all done in the pitstops," he added.

"Sadly I think a bit of amnesia has crept in from the fans with regard to those two things."

In response to 50.4 per cent of fans being against F1's drag reduction system to aid overtaking, Boullier said the message is mixed.

"I watch old races sometimes at home and you look at the huge gap between the cars - there was very little overtaking," he said. "But we enjoyed them.

"In 2013 we had perhaps the closest-ever racing in Formula 1 and there were so many overtaking manoeuvres and pitstops that people couldn't understand what was going on.

"That was a crazy season. What do people want - overtaking or not?"

Pirelli chief Paul Hembery believes it would be risky for F1 to base its direction purely on the results of the surveys.

"If you want exciting racing, the survey results go against that," he said.

"A team will spend a lot of money on the best tyres and the best engine and there will be no overtaking and they'll disappear into the distance.

"That happened in the early 2000s and the audiences fell through the floor.

"The responses of the survey seem to point towards that so people need to think about what they're saying."

Premesso che far decidere le regole del gioco agli spettatori col televoto è piuttosto avvilente e già  fa capire quanto lontani si sia ormai dal concetto di "sport" (mi sembra non sia mai servito il sondaggione per decidere le regole del calcio, del tennis o del football americano), non si capisce allora che capperi l'abbiano fatto a fare il sondaggio. Forse speravano solo che gli "dicesse bene", ovvero di verificare a posteriori che il pubblico "fosse con loro" e dormire sonni tranquilli la notte?

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Premesso che far decidere le regole del gioco agli spettatori col televoto è piuttosto avvilente e già  fa capire quanto lontani si sia ormai dal concetto di "sport" (mi sembra non sia mai servito il sondaggione per decidere le regole del calcio, del tennis o del football americano), non si capisce allora che capperi l'abbiano fatto a fare il sondaggio. Forse speravano solo che gli "dicesse bene", ovvero di verificare a posteriori che il pubblico "fosse con loro" e dormire sonni tranquilli la notte?

 

Forse solo per quello, anche se bastava vedere i vuoti nelle tribune e lo share televisivo.

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Per me è già  molto confortante vedere che "solo" il 18% vuole le griglie invertite, il 26% le zavorre e il 16% motori e/o vetture standard, uguali per tutti. Non è nemmeno male vedere che secondo il 60% dei partecipanti il DRS non ha migliorato lo spettacolo

 

Poi ad onor del vero c'è anche da dire che i partecipanti sono stati molto pochi, soltanto 217.756 sparsi in tutto il mondo, quindi non è che questo campione possa definirsi rappresentativo

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Per me è già  molto confortante vedere che "solo" il 18% vuole le griglie invertite, il 26% le zavorre e il 16% motori e/o vetture standard, uguali per tutti. Non è nemmeno male vedere che secondo il 60% dei partecipanti il DRS non ha migliorato lo spettacolo

 

Poi ad onor del vero c'è anche da dire che i partecipanti sono stati molto pochi, soltanto 217.756 sparsi in tutto il mondo, quindi non è che questo campione possa definirsi rappresentativo

 

E' rappresentativo che la F.1 è uno sport/spettacolo in clamorosa fase calante a livello di interesse mediatico

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Penso siano stati parecchi anche quelli che, come me, dopo dieci domande si sono rotti le scatole e hanno chiuso tutto.

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Sui rifornimenti sono d'accordo e infatti per me è l'unica modifica regolamentare sensata degli ultimi anni. Per il resto, nemmeno mi stupisco: tornare indietro sarebbe l'ammissione definitiva di quanto schifose siano state le novità  regolamentari di quest'ultimo periodo, in particolare dal 2009 in poi (ma anche negli anni precedenti s'intravedeva lo schifo che sarebbe venuto poi).

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a me invece manda in bestia questa frase "enhancing races excitement and unpredictability" cioè la perenne ricerca del caos.

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New 2016 weekend format being discussed. As I understand it, Qualifying would replace FP3 with a 1hr race Sat pm to set grid for Sunday.

— The Buxton Blog (@thebuxtonblog)

July 2, 2015

 

Non ho neanche le parole adatte per commentare

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Sarebbe coerente con l'introduzione del parco chiuso a partire dal termine delle FP2

La cosa peggiore è che per un pò ci incazzeremo ma poi ad aprile TUTTI (io per primo) saremo incollati alla TV (o allo streaming pirata :asd: ) per seguire il campionato

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La regola della PU in più al nuovo motorista che si applica retroattivamente per fare un favore alla Honda è meravigliosa. Un bizantinismo sublime.

Sono dei pagliacci  :rotfl:

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